Who Won the Republican Debate

fred-thompson.jpg  Who Won, Fred Thompson of course?  But you say he wasn’t there.  Correct, that is why he won.  There were a lot of guys there and still you had to look and say I wish I had more choices.  Not that a number of them didn’t do well, it was just lacking something.  Therefore I think Fred won because he is brought to focus by the question “is that all our choices.”

 Also yesterday he launched his own “exploratory” website called I’m With Fred.  It is basically a fundraising site, but we will probably know about his candidacy in July (i.e. 4th).

 I read something recently that said that Fred Thompson would have the best performance in the Presidential Debates and that is really the “crunch” time, and I believe it is true.  It would be Thompson that could deliver a sobering dose of common sense to Hillary, Obama or Edwards in the Debates.  This guy may just have what it takes!

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15 Responses to “Who Won the Republican Debate”


  1. 1 Heidi Jo June 6, 2007 at 4:12 pm

    where does he fall on key issues?
    abortion
    war
    spending
    tax cuts
    immigration
    i’m counting on you steve to fill me in 

    Heidi,
    abortion: He’s Personally Pro Life but wants the federal government and courts out of the question with the issue remanded to the states.
    war: Favors a strong national defense and recognizes an existential threat from Islamic fundamentalists.
    spending: Not ready to comment here.
    tax cuts: favors a restructuring of an obsolete tax code with the emphasis on streamlining it and using it to make us competitive in the world and grow our domestic economy.
    immigration: seemed to be more ambivalent about this when he was in the Senate, but now supports strong border enforcement is against the current Kennedy/Bush legislation in the Senate.

  2. 2 Heidi Jo June 6, 2007 at 4:13 pm

    oh yeah, i have always liked him on Law & Order…. and you can believe everything on television, right?

    Heidi,
    Well as much as I pan Hollywood, it once gave us maybe the greatest President of all, so who knows maybe lightning will strike twice in the same spot. ….steve

  3. 3 MDBL June 6, 2007 at 4:56 pm

    Well, the things we care about here… He’s pro-life. He believes that federal judges should overturn Roe vs. Wade. (He thinks it’s bad law and bad medical science.) He opposes gay marriage but would let states decide whether to allow civil unions. He says marriage is between a man and a woman; judges shouldn’t be allowed to change that. He opposes gun control. He praised last week’s 2-1 federal appeals decision overturning a long-standing handgun ban in the District of Columbia. His remark was basically the court said the Constitution means what it says. He supports the surge, the increase of troops to Iraq, and said, “Wars are full of mistakes. You rectify them. I think we’re doing that now. We’ve got to give it a chance to work.”
    He said he would pardon Scooter Libby on his conviction for perjury and obstruction of justice, and he would do it now rather than waiting until all of his appeals are exhausted.
    He is thought to be very authoritative with a lot of presence etc etc. We all know that matters.
    Broad brush… HE’S PERFECT!
    I’m sure with everybody in the race right now you just feel like eventually you’re going to have to vote for one of them simply out of party loyalty.
    Not with Fred.
    & Townhall loves him… RUN FRED RUN.
    Put your Save The Neo-Cons cape on, fly in & save the day!

    Haven’t checked in for a while… Sure have missed everyone.

  4. 4 mommyzabs June 6, 2007 at 9:30 pm

    well mike you sure aren’t discouraging. I think he’s the right one for me 🙂

  5. 5 MDBL June 6, 2007 at 9:34 pm

    Exactly… My point

  6. 6 mommyzabs June 6, 2007 at 11:11 pm

    mdbl,

    “there ain’t no good guy
    there ain’t no bad guy
    there’s only you and me
    and we just disagree.”

    Since we both like music I thought I’d speak that language.

    peace.

  7. 7 totaltransformation June 7, 2007 at 8:48 am

    Thus far he is my choice- 95% of the way.

  8. 8 bd June 7, 2007 at 9:26 am

    I like Fred too.

  9. 9 the Grit June 7, 2007 at 2:54 pm

    Hi all,

    Well, Thompson was my Senator for a term, and while he wasn’t the best, he was very far from the worst. Of course, that’s in comparison to Al Gore 🙂

    However, how well one performs in the Senate has almost nothing to do with how well one can perform as an executive. Fred has basically the right attitude, and, more importantly, as we have seen with Bush, the ability to give a good speech. While it irks me to no end, the skill to host a global party, making every guest feel welcome and appreciated, seems to be more important than actually accomplishing things.

    Face it, everyone outside the US loved Bill Clinton, even though he did almost nothing, but they hate Bush, even though he has presided over major accomplishments. While I see it as intolerance to the South, these things have to be considered. Thompson has the gift, and I think he will use it wisely.

    the Grit

  10. 10 Jim June 8, 2007 at 12:19 am

    The only true conservative is Ron Paul. Most of those other guys including Fred will push the globalist agenda of amnesty for illegals, North American Union, National ID cards (your papers bitte!) and preemptive wars. Your search for the lesser of ten evils along with selling out to safety and security will land you yet another globalist. The only one who is not sold out to a globalist agenda is Ron Paul. He never has been able to be paid off by lobbyists because he is principled and a constitutionalist. Pro-life too. A long shot? Sure, but when Las Vegas moves his odds up from 200 to 1, to 15 to 1, they see him as a rising star. That’s hard to ignore. I just can’t say enough about him. Don’t take my word for it, investigate his record for yourself.
    http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

    All I can say Jim is you sure have some keen insights about what people will do contrary to their position. Maybe your right, but it would take a psychic to know. I really doubt that Thompson (or even a couple of the others) would approve amnesty, but please forward you information to the contrary.

  11. 11 MDBL June 8, 2007 at 1:12 am

    100 percent!
    Not the right package for people Jim… Such a shame but that’s where the political process is today.

  12. 12 plodon June 8, 2007 at 3:26 am

    Ron Paul? Ron Paul has about as much chance of getting the Republican Presidential nomination as Rush Limbaugh has of getting the Democratic one. Ron Paul will get his message out, but that’s about it.

    Poldon, I believe this is so true even though Jim is encouraged that the odds are now 15:1, and it has everything to do with who I PERSONALLY felt won the debate. I’m talking here about winning and loosing. …. steve

  13. 13 Jim June 8, 2007 at 7:24 pm

    If it’s a winner that you want, go for a Dem, they have a better chance thanks to Bush. It’s not always about winning when there is someone with a mountain of principles to stand on. Winning, who said anything about winning? Sure, he is a long shot, but at some point Christians should learn to stand on principles and not compromise just to be a part of a winning team. I don’t think American Christianity will survive another 20 or even 10 years of political compromises.

    It doesn’t take a psychic to see that no matter who becomes president, they support policies that yield more and more American power and sovereignty to global or non-governmental entities. If the major media likes them, it’s because they support things like FTAA, GATT, NAFTA, CAFTA, WTO, IMF and World Bank. Bush who once bucked Kyoto now wants to lead the charge in CO2 cuts for the world. He is falling into a UN ploy to introduce a global tax.

    Fred Thompson seems like a nice enough guy and he will get the nod, just so as long he plays the game of globalism, that’s really all it takes. Show some charisma, play globalist and the media will fawn.

    Jim, Winning was in reference to the debate. I believe that Thompson would sopport strong borders and all that. To say otherwise is speculation. He claims to be for it just like Paul. I’ve said before to you that I believe that Paul has made some changes in the recent years too. So change isn’t always selling out. You got to be careful not to paint us into a totally isolations box. We do need to do some business throughout the world and that takes more than just simplistic answers. And no I didn’t mean that in a pejorative sense. American Christianity will survive another 2,000 years if necessary. God is not dependent on American Politics or Politicians. It is easy to throw the Global boogie man around but it doesn’t always apply. I have to run and go outside and see if I can see the Atlantis blast off. ………..steve

  14. 14 misi June 9, 2007 at 7:37 am

    O.k. Please tolerate a comment from an amateur here… Would you Dem’s vote Repub???????? I seriously doubt it, so don’t accuse us of just tring to save face so to speak. You and I both know that’s why we classify ourselves as Dem’s and Repub’s so give it up. I vote republican, you vote dem, may the best man win…

    Misi, you are right here. in effect we sort of preach to the choir and fight with the opposition. Hopefully we get a thesis – antithesis then synthesis (if appropriate) ……….steve

  15. 15 Jim June 10, 2007 at 5:31 pm

    Fred Thompson would be for amnesty, though he may not call it that. Bush in his first term came right out said that he wanted amnesty and he quickly learned that didn’t work. Bush keeps attempting different deals at “immigration reform” and while he has dropped tha amnesty language, there is still an amnesty deal embedded in it. Thanks to Republican Senator Jeff Sessions “20 loopholes” we found this out about the latest Bush attempt. http://sessions.senate.gov/pressapp/record.cfm?id=275456

    I think Fred would take the same approach. Why? Because he is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Thompson

    What originates out of the CFR? Countless papers, articles, speaches, etc. about how great globalization is and how sovereignty needs to diminish to usher in a new age of globalism. This is not a global boogie man, but a very real operation. Read about Robert Pastor (CFR), who is providing an intellectual backbone for globalization theories and refers to sovereignty as an “outdated conception”.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union

    So why am I talking about globalization and sovereignty when I am responding to why I think Fred Thompson would be for amnesty? Because what better way to break down a nations’ identity and strong sovereignty ethic than to import an enormous chunck of people and then give them every reason to not assimilate. It’s called balkanization or divide and conquer or as you said above, thesis – antithesis then synthesis. The thesis is American national sovereignty, its antithesis is a balkanized America with an enormous Latino underclass. The synthesis is to “harmonize” the populations from USA, Canada and Mexico into a North American Union. The CFR is helping to create the antithesis so they can jump in a save us with their synthesis. The Hegelian dialectic is being used on us.
    Fred Thompson, by being associated with the CFR, will have a globalist agenda. How much he wants to show his hand, we’ll see?

    Watch Lou Dobbs interview Robert Pastor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKvqv3rF2CY

    Jim, Haven’t had a sec to watch the video but will tomorrow (well it is past midnight here so “later in the morning”) I’ll be keeping an eye on Thomposon and watch what pronouncements he makes in this area. Also, lets not forget they are politicians and may take note of the throttling that Bush is taking on this issue and may back off, but as you say “we’ll see.” God forbid that we would harmonize with Canada and Mexico. Probably my strongest motive against this is that this country would become a permanent Liberal bastion. I need to do more investigation however………..steve


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